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they have warned the syrian government not to use disproportionate force, yet clearly disproportionate force has been and is being used in this conflict 21 months on, 40,000-plus dead. now, in terms of what will happen next, it's hard to know on the ground here. the rebels are clearly making advances. the north of this country feels like an independent state. aside from attacking from the air, there are not any syrian troops in this area at all, but the rebels still don't have enough power to deliver a knockout blow. most of the fighting is focused on the two big cities, aleppo and damascus. but as of now, they haven't been able to take either one of them. david? >> richard engel, thank you very much. for more on this developing story, i want to go to "the atlantic's" jeffrey goldberg, also a columnist for bloomberg view, and white house correspondent for "the new york times," helene cooper. welcome to both of you. jeffrey, you covered this region extensively and have for years. you heard what the president has said and what richard has said. why this red line? something the united sta
they have warned the syrian government not to use disproportionate force, yet clearly disproportionate force has been and is being used in this conflict 21 months on, 40,000-plus dead. now, in terms of what will happen next, it's hard to know on the ground here. the rebels are clearly making advances. the north of this country feels like an independent state. aside from attacking from the air, there are not any syrian troops in this area at all, but the rebels still don't have enough power to...
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this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of chemical weapons. and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons sites like this one. while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly sarin gas. the development shook the world. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad that there would be serious consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> it's the point of no return. they're goi
this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of chemical weapons. and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military...
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president obama said the special forces soldier gave his life for a fellow american. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution. instead what the people talk about are the suffering of the people. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. there is also tremendous economic difficulties here. the syrian currency is worth about half of what it was worth when the war began. a loaf of bread costs 20 times what it did just a few months ago. but despite all of this the rebels are making advances. they say they hope to soon control the city of aleppo, the country's commercial capital. after that, damascus. richard engel, nfc news. >>> this morning latin music fans around the w
president obama said the special forces soldier gave his life for a fellow american. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution....
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. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government considering the use of chemical weapons against its own citizens. is this still a possibility or has president obama's warning been taken to heart by the authorities? >> well, it's extremely difficult to ascertain right now whether or not that is going to unfold like that. what we do know from western intelligence officials who have told nbc news is chemical weapons have been mixed at least in various military facilities in and around various parts of syria, but at the same time we also know from the syrian government, they have categorically rejected they would use such weapons. the criticism that many would say is you simply cannot trust the syrian regime or take it for its word. when it's gotten desperate it has resorted to brutal violence and there's no doubt it has the capacity, whether it has the political willingness to do that is still uncertain. >> live from kay row. thank you so much. and we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. thank you so much. and we'll be rig
. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government considering the use of chemical weapons against its own citizens. is this still a possibility or has president obama's warning been taken to heart by the authorities? >> well, it's extremely difficult to ascertain right now whether or not that is going to unfold like that. what we do know from western intelligence officials who have told nbc news is chemical weapons have been mixed at least in various military...
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he is still just brutalizing syrians. >> hundreds are dying every day. you could kill the same number of people or more with chemical weapons. it's a different order of magnitude in terms of the moral threat obviously and everything else but, you know, right now assad still has apparently free rein to do whatever he wants with his conventional munitions against his own people. >> you have to wonder when does that change? maybe the russians will finally get there. >> this is the key question. the russians have a problem with muslim extremism. they do not want chemical weapons falling into the hands of muslim extremists who might transfer them. >> are they on the way out of supporting assad? did assad accidently give them -- >> it seems like -- if you were the russian foreign minister and you're not but if you were -- you would probably be seeking a way out, too. there is no future for this regime. >> not anymore. and now it's like at best they can hope maybe the next regime they could be supportive of. very quickly one reason i wanted you on before, israe
he is still just brutalizing syrians. >> hundreds are dying every day. you could kill the same number of people or more with chemical weapons. it's a different order of magnitude in terms of the moral threat obviously and everything else but, you know, right now assad still has apparently free rein to do whatever he wants with his conventional munitions against his own people. >> you have to wonder when does that change? maybe the russians will finally get there. >> this is...
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the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you. >> it's important to remember what susan said was based on the information that had been given to every senior official. in our administration. and she made very clear in her appearances that the information was subject to change, as more facts were gathered and analyzed by the intelligence community and looked, as often the case, our understanding evolved over time. and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. >> so obviously, secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of susan rice, the context obviously being the attacks on benghazi and libya and the republican calls for more information. is there anything to be read from the fact that we have seen both president obama and secretary of state clinton go out o
the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you. >> it's important to remember what susan said was based on the information that had been given to every senior official. in our administration. and she made very clear in her...